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Author Topic: songay/sanders/toumoei (warning for now, collecting info)  (Read 2641 times)

Sesruc

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some of you may have known someone named songay or sanders on furc a while ago. don't get me wrong, to my knowledge she's still active. a year or two ago she was a respected artist advertised through the devianart handle http://perpetual-boredom.deviantart.com/. honestly i'm not sure whether or not she got caught tracing or she just randomly packed and left. my suspicions though are that she did get caught and quietly left dA.

i don't know the complete details of the previous situation.

but i do know for a fact that she traced these two images:
http://archistoire.deviantart.com/art/Tango-Del-Atardecer-30329274
http://tw1stedtruth-stock.deviantart.com/art/Spartan-Sitting-4-50713208

and i'm pretty sure there was more.

i cannot provide much hard evidence here to back up what i've said other than this (due to her having deleted her whole dA gallery):
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9920/spartano.png

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the above situation is history, remember it was AT LEAST a year ago. i'm not sure if any of her old dA art is floating around the internet or that any of the layovers and images she may have used are still saved.

from the best of my knowledge she has never uploaded on a public gallery until now.

http://theodiousone.sheezyart.com/

she's known as http://odious.artician.com/
joined 4/16/09
majority if not all the gallery there is uploaded 4/16/09


i assumed that 'hey, she's been caught once. she should have learned her lesson'
and lo and behold i notice that a considerable fraction of this new gallery is old art. AND of course the spartan image in which i've managed to provide a layover of is also uploaded.

"I hopped on the Spartan band wagon, needless to say.
What do I hate more than band wagons?
Drapery. It absolutely eludes me."

was her submission description. no mention of reffing. no mention of when she drew it.

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she's offering commissions and i'm worried about how creditable she is.
lord, she has been caught tracing before and for some insane reason thinks that now it's smart to reupload an image she has been called out on? imo, bad decision. IF she actually stopped tracing, then what's the purpose of this? i'm not entirely sure.


so atm, this stands as a warning.
i can't provide very solid proof that she's still tracing (or was for the matter), reasons being that the dating of her art in her new gallery is all wrong and almost all of her now deleted dA art is missing. i have a feeling though that someone out there has some info however small or large, any would be helpful.


and in case she deletes her new gallery i've saved a few images:
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll202/sesruc/what/
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 03:55:50 PM by Sesruc »

 
        

Requiem

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Re: songay/sanders (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #1: April 22, 2009, 12:33:26 PM»
looks like she hopped away again- no one by that name on Artician exists apparently.
and as far as i'm also aware, she is still active. i've seen her on sanders pretty recently.

Sesruc

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Re: songay/sanders (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #2: April 22, 2009, 01:56:27 PM»
wow yeah
she deleted my comment on her image yesterday with no response

i guess she left again.

since she's not on artician anymore i don't have a way to contact her.

if someone sees her on furc though i don't think it'd hurt to link her to this thread. i'm pretty certain that any honest artist would not want to have a big fat warning next to their name & that they'd want to be cleared.


edit: oh yes and i forgot to mention that the fact that she didn't respond and simply left is suspicious.. to me at least.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 03:48:33 PM by Sesruc »

Offline Locksly

Re: songay/sanders (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #3: April 22, 2009, 02:51:21 PM»
Just a friendly passerby,

She also goes by Toumoei on Furc and has a sheezyart: http://theodiousone.sheezyart.com/

Hope that helped a little. >:

Requiem

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Re: songay/sanders (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #4: April 22, 2009, 03:24:01 PM»
Just a friendly passerby,

She also goes by Toumoei on Furc and has a sheezyart: http://theodiousone.sheezyart.com/

Hope that helped a little. >:

helped a lot, actually. she's active on that as well, seeing as her last post in her journal was two days ago, once again asking about commissions.
Copypasta just in case it gets deleted:
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Rachel Brice is COMING TO MY TOWN - commission status OPEN. posted Apr 20th 2009, 6:48PM
Mood: Anxious   Music: None.
Which means I need money.

Ideally I need somewhere around the 80 dollar figure.

Which means that as much as I don't want to. I'm taking commissions.

Not to be redundant, but ideally - again - I'd like to do a number of sketches, since I'm best at those. >.> But I suppose I'll take them as they come.

Sketches range from 5 to 10 dollars, depending on the complexity and how many characters are in them.

Refined lineart is between 15 and 20.

I can't do colored pieces in a traditional medium at current. Being homeless makes it difficult to do much, especially when my shit is in three different places.

So, colored is confined to computer coloring. Those can range anywhere from 25 to 50-- I dunno.

Prices ARE negotiable, though, so.

You can get me on MSN - my handle is [email protected]
Or PM me, or something.

looks like we have an msn~
anyone want to take a stab at it? i would but i'm heading to work.

Sesruc

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Re: songay/sanders (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #5: April 22, 2009, 03:52:41 PM»
added her, isn't online
maybe someone may have more luck than me? idk

anyways, i've messaged her on sheezyart linking her to this thread.

Offline Puppy

Re: songay/sanders/toumoei (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #6: April 22, 2009, 04:18:29 PM»
She updated her journal on sheezyart.

Quote from: Odious
To this point I've pretty much avoided facing it and I realise that's poor handling on my part, but I'm pretty done with it.

There are a number of pictures that are an almost direct trace of stock and nonstock photos that I had up, and I never referenced the original image, out of laziness or a simple desire not to. I will maintain - however - that I've never traced another hand drawn piece.

You can call me a no talent hack, if you'd like, certainly, and simply assume I don't have any ability, etc, etc. Flame away.

But point in fact, I've learned a lot from my unorthodox study through that image work and it's actually benefited my stuff quite a bit. Once again, however, I realise it was wrong of me not to give credit where credit was due, so I've removed my gallery and when I feel I have enough finished work that isn't a ripoff in some fashion, (beyond obvious human copymachining) I may start posting again, possibly.

Sesruc

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Re: songay/sanders/toumoei (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #7: April 22, 2009, 04:31:04 PM»
thanks, this i think this thread can be locked now..
HOPEFULLY she learned from this.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 04:34:06 PM by Sesruc »

Requiem

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Re: songay/sanders/toumoei (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #8: May 20, 2009, 10:42:28 PM»
hey, can you add this to the songay thread in art alerts?
linpanda just pm'ed this to me today


Since the thread has been locked, from what I could tell, I thought maybe I'd send you this information as evidence maybe.

http://www.freewebs.com/cioskar/art.htm

This is a web link to Songay's dedicated RP partner that sports art supposedly drawn by Tou/Songay - so there you go.

I, unforunately, fell victim to this 'artist' ways by being duped into believing she'll draw art for someone that renewed her foxen. Which I did, and obviously a couple of months later I receive nothing, and am notified of the thread you made. Wish I was shown it before. =(

Requiem

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Re: songay/sanders/toumoei (warning for now, collecting info)
«Reply #9: May 26, 2009, 07:02:03 PM»
one last update from linpanda.



    "Well, since I noticed that what I PM'd you was added to her thread. I have to note that she did gift me a foxen today after I whined a lot to 'dedicated RP buddy.'

    Even though I was gifted the foxen, I still don't believe this honestly makes us even because I wanted the art I was hoping to get. It makes us even in monetary trade, but not principle.

    Just sending out a warning. Don't be duped like me. "