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Offline MT

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Port theft -warning-
«: December 12, 2009, 11:18:16 PM»
I was told that one of my portraits was stolen. It was the couple portrait I did for Fuhnora's contest (http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?topic=153.0)

stolen:
original: http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2506

(they asked me to block out their name so they don't look bad/get harassed.)

summary: I asked them where they got their port, they said someone made it for them 4 years ago but they forgot who. I then realized that it didn't make sense, because I definitely didn't make that port 4 years ago. They swear that it was uploaded on 2006-10-31 13:13:27 but I'm guessing they just changed the words. They said they couldn't provide a screen shot, so.. yeah.
But we're going to stay in touch and make sure the port is cleared.
I can't say who the port is uploaded on, but if anyone sees this port floating around please tell me! And does anyone have any idea who made this?

logs vvvv
12/12/09 22:47:34 Beep: Hello!
12/12/09 22:47:39 *****: hi
12/12/09 22:47:45 Beep: WHere did you get your port?
12/12/09 22:48:04 *****: someone made it for me a long time ago
12/12/09 22:48:10 *****: almost four years ago
12/12/09 22:48:15 *****: I don't remember who
12/12/09 22:48:26 Beep: Well, it needs to be cleared.
12/12/09 22:48:31 Beep: I made that port a long time ago for a contest.
12/12/09 22:48:50 *****: I can clear it
12/12/09 22:49:01 Beep: alright, thank you
12/12/09 22:49:17 *****: I just don't remember who did it thou
12/12/09 22:49:43 Beep: it's alright. When it's cleared, can you whisper me? just so I know it's cleared
12/12/09 22:49:51 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:51:12 *****: if I knew someone stole it I would not have let them make it
12/12/09 22:52:34 Beep: it's alright, you didn't know
12/12/09 22:52:49 Beep: but I have a question
12/12/09 22:52:56 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:53:11 Beep: you said it was almost 4 years ago?
12/12/09 22:53:15 *****: yes
12/12/09 22:53:25 Beep: that portrait was made about.. 2 years ago
12/12/09 22:53:31 Beep: my original one
12/12/09 22:53:39 *****: I got this one made four years ago
12/12/09 22:53:44 *****: that I remember
12/12/09 22:54:09 Beep: That doesn't make sense, but hold on. I'll check the date of the contest
12/12/09 22:54:49 Beep: the portrait was made for a contest in january 08. so it wasn't 4 years ago
12/12/09 22:55:07 Beep: I don't mean to sound rude, but are you lying?
12/12/09 22:55:36 *****: not lying I know it was four years ago because thats how long I have had this port
12/12/09 22:55:59 Beep: the couple portrait?
12/12/09 22:56:08 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:56:16 Beep: ..that doesn't make sense.
12/12/09 22:56:17 *****: this one I have right now is a year old
12/12/09 22:56:19 Beep: wait, hold on
12/12/09 22:56:59 Beep: okay, I have a quick favor for you
12/12/09 22:57:04 *****: alright
12/12/09 22:57:13 Beep: http://www.furcadia.com/beekins/portraits/ can you go here, and click on uploading?
12/12/09 22:57:25 Beep: when you log in, there will be a list of your portraits with a date it was uploaded
12/12/09 22:57:36 Beep: can you screenshot the date with the port and link it to me? I hope it's not too much to ask
12/12/09 22:58:49 *****: screen shot?
12/12/09 22:59:13 Beep: yeah, there should be a print screen button on your keyboard
12/12/09 22:59:33 *****: not on mine >.<
12/12/09 22:59:46 Beep: what do you mean?
12/12/09 22:59:47 Beep: ooh
12/12/09 22:59:48 *****: on my labtop at work not hooked up
12/12/09 22:59:53 Beep: well then just copy/paste the date
12/12/09 23:00:05 Beep: http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2506 here's the original by me by the way
12/12/09 23:00:32 *****: Uploaded 2006-10-31 13:13:27
12/12/09 23:00:53 Beep: ..are you sure
12/12/09 23:01:06 *****: yes
12/12/09 23:01:18 Beep: obviously it was NOT uploaded in 2006
12/12/09 23:01:31 Beep: that portrait didn't even exist until 08
12/12/09 23:01:47 *****: thats when I got it and I'm not lying >.<
12/12/09 23:02:21 Beep: You may say that, but honestly it's impossible that it was uplaoded 4 years ago
12/12/09 23:02:34 Beep: but hey, as long as it's cleared I don't have a problem!
12/12/09 23:02:59 *****: as soon as I get one more GD I can clear it
12/12/09 23:03:05 *****: until then I won't use it
12/12/09 23:03:20 Beep: alright, thank you very much. Do you mind if I post these logs?
12/12/09 23:03:33 *****: post them were?
12/12/09 23:04:15 Beep: on Furc Art Zone, an art site. I'm making an art thread to try to see if anyone has anymore information on who did that port.
12/12/09 23:04:20 Beep: You can say no if you want
12/12/09 23:04:40 *****: if you change my name so I don't look bad >.<
12/12/09 23:05:01 Beep: I can block out your name :)
12/12/09 23:05:09 *****: that works


 
        

Offline RandomFurry17

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #1: December 13, 2009, 03:16:26 AM»
I was told that one of my portraits was stolen. It was the couple portrait I did for Fuhnora's contest (http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?topic=153.0)

stolen:
original: http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2506

(they asked me to block out their name so they don't look bad/get harassed.)

summary: I asked them where they got their port, they said someone made it for them 4 years ago but they forgot who. I then realized that it didn't make sense, because I definitely didn't make that port 4 years ago. They swear that it was uploaded on 2006-10-31 13:13:27 but I'm guessing they just changed the words. They said they couldn't provide a screen shot, so.. yeah.
But we're going to stay in touch and make sure the port is cleared.
I can't say who the port is uploaded on, but if anyone sees this port floating around please tell me! And does anyone have any idea who made this?

logs vvvv
12/12/09 22:47:34 Beep: Hello!
12/12/09 22:47:39 *****: hi
12/12/09 22:47:45 Beep: WHere did you get your port?
12/12/09 22:48:04 *****: someone made it for me a long time ago
12/12/09 22:48:10 *****: almost four years ago
12/12/09 22:48:15 *****: I don't remember who
12/12/09 22:48:26 Beep: Well, it needs to be cleared.
12/12/09 22:48:31 Beep: I made that port a long time ago for a contest.
12/12/09 22:48:50 *****: I can clear it
12/12/09 22:49:01 Beep: alright, thank you
12/12/09 22:49:17 *****: I just don't remember who did it thou
12/12/09 22:49:43 Beep: it's alright. When it's cleared, can you whisper me? just so I know it's cleared
12/12/09 22:49:51 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:51:12 *****: if I knew someone stole it I would not have let them make it
12/12/09 22:52:34 Beep: it's alright, you didn't know
12/12/09 22:52:49 Beep: but I have a question
12/12/09 22:52:56 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:53:11 Beep: you said it was almost 4 years ago?
12/12/09 22:53:15 *****: yes
12/12/09 22:53:25 Beep: that portrait was made about.. 2 years ago
12/12/09 22:53:31 Beep: my original one
12/12/09 22:53:39 *****: I got this one made four years ago
12/12/09 22:53:44 *****: that I remember
12/12/09 22:54:09 Beep: That doesn't make sense, but hold on. I'll check the date of the contest
12/12/09 22:54:49 Beep: the portrait was made for a contest in january 08. so it wasn't 4 years ago
12/12/09 22:55:07 Beep: I don't mean to sound rude, but are you lying?
12/12/09 22:55:36 *****: not lying I know it was four years ago because thats how long I have had this port
12/12/09 22:55:59 Beep: the couple portrait?
12/12/09 22:56:08 *****: yeah
12/12/09 22:56:16 Beep: ..that doesn't make sense.
12/12/09 22:56:17 *****: this one I have right now is a year old
12/12/09 22:56:19 Beep: wait, hold on
12/12/09 22:56:59 Beep: okay, I have a quick favor for you
12/12/09 22:57:04 *****: alright
12/12/09 22:57:13 Beep: http://www.furcadia.com/beekins/portraits/ can you go here, and click on uploading?
12/12/09 22:57:25 Beep: when you log in, there will be a list of your portraits with a date it was uploaded
12/12/09 22:57:36 Beep: can you screenshot the date with the port and link it to me? I hope it's not too much to ask
12/12/09 22:58:49 *****: screen shot?
12/12/09 22:59:13 Beep: yeah, there should be a print screen button on your keyboard
12/12/09 22:59:33 *****: not on mine >.<
12/12/09 22:59:46 Beep: what do you mean?
12/12/09 22:59:47 Beep: ooh
12/12/09 22:59:48 *****: on my labtop at work not hooked up
12/12/09 22:59:53 Beep: well then just copy/paste the date
12/12/09 23:00:05 Beep: http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2506 here's the original by me by the way
12/12/09 23:00:32 *****: Uploaded 2006-10-31 13:13:27
12/12/09 23:00:53 Beep: ..are you sure
12/12/09 23:01:06 *****: yes
12/12/09 23:01:18 Beep: obviously it was NOT uploaded in 2006
12/12/09 23:01:31 Beep: that portrait didn't even exist until 08
12/12/09 23:01:47 *****: thats when I got it and I'm not lying >.<
12/12/09 23:02:21 Beep: You may say that, but honestly it's impossible that it was uplaoded 4 years ago
12/12/09 23:02:34 Beep: but hey, as long as it's cleared I don't have a problem!
12/12/09 23:02:59 *****: as soon as I get one more GD I can clear it
12/12/09 23:03:05 *****: until then I won't use it
12/12/09 23:03:20 Beep: alright, thank you very much. Do you mind if I post these logs?
12/12/09 23:03:33 *****: post them were?
12/12/09 23:04:15 Beep: on Furc Art Zone, an art site. I'm making an art thread to try to see if anyone has anymore information on who did that port.
12/12/09 23:04:20 Beep: You can say no if you want
12/12/09 23:04:40 *****: if you change my name so I don't look bad >.<
12/12/09 23:05:01 Beep: I can block out your name :)
12/12/09 23:05:09 *****: that works


Ok whats the port of asking for logs if you block there name >.> WHATS the point of warning us when you wotn tell us who the theif was i think i rather keep this person away from my stuff............who excatly are you warning us about?

Offline neca

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #2: December 13, 2009, 03:31:46 AM»
I'm fairly sure with a case of art theft they can have the portrait cleared for free if they contact someone like Leah and tell them about the issue.

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Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #3: December 13, 2009, 09:45:37 AM»
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Ok whats the port of asking for logs if you block there name >.> WHATS the point of warning us when you wotn tell us who the theif was i think i rather keep this person away from my stuff............who excatly are you warning us about?

They have the right to remain anonymous.
I'm trying to see if anyone has seen that port before, or knows anything about it. Just because you can't see their name doesn't mean it makes the logs useless??
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 11:52:49 AM by MT »

Offline Shyra

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #4: December 13, 2009, 07:22:22 PM»
Quote
Ok whats the port of asking for logs if you block there name >.> WHATS the point of warning us when you wotn tell us who the theif was i think i rather keep this person away from my stuff............who excatly are you warning us about?

They have the right to remain anonymous.
I'm trying to see if anyone has seen that port before, or knows anything about it. Just because you can't see their name doesn't mean it makes the logs useless??

(Edit: Haha, posted it wrong.)
The person who uploaded the isn't the thief. It's the person who ripped it. So the person who uploaded can be anonymous.

Offline neca

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #5: December 13, 2009, 08:50:02 PM»

(Edit: Haha, posted it wrong.)
The person who uploaded the isn't the thief. It's the person who ripped it. So the person who uploaded can be anonymous.

Correct. :D Unless the person stole it and uploaded it themselves, it's the theif's fault for stealing and then selling someone else's work. Often people, especially ones who don't hang out in areas with prominent artists or aren't into the network of artists on Furc, simply don't know or recognize stolen artwork from artists.

Offline LSD

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #6: December 15, 2009, 07:32:40 AM»

(Edit: Haha, posted it wrong.)
The person who uploaded the isn't the thief. It's the person who ripped it. So the person who uploaded can be anonymous.

Correct. :D Unless the person stole it and uploaded it themselves, it's the theif's fault for stealing and then selling someone else's work. Often people, especially ones who don't hang out in areas with prominent artists or aren't into the network of artists on Furc, simply don't know or recognize stolen artwork from artists.
which is more than likely the case, or else why say that it was made four years ago.

Offline RandomFurry17

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #7: December 23, 2009, 12:17:48 PM»

(Edit: Haha, posted it wrong.)
The person who uploaded the isn't the thief. It's the person who ripped it. So the person who uploaded can be anonymous.

Correct. :D Unless the person stole it and uploaded it themselves, it's the theif's fault for stealing and then selling someone else's work. Often people, especially ones who don't hang out in areas with prominent artists or aren't into the network of artists on Furc, simply don't know or recognize stolen artwork from artists.

ok to many words but who is it? :(

Offline Creek

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #8: December 23, 2009, 02:15:22 PM»

ok to many words but who is it? :(

They chose to keep the person anonymous. Revealing the name would make that void. Anonymous = SECRET for a reason.  So stop asking for the name of the person whom has the port, and look for the person who ripped the port and claimed it as their own work.

Offline RandomFurry17

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #9: January 23, 2010, 05:31:32 AM»

ok to many words but who is it? :(

They chose to keep the person anonymous. Revealing the name would make that void. Anonymous = SECRET for a reason.  So stop asking for the name of the person whom has the port, and look for the person who ripped the port and claimed it as their own work.

How do you knwo the person with it didnt rip it? >.>

Offline Zim

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #10: January 23, 2010, 03:31:05 PM»

ok to many words but who is it? :(

They chose to keep the person anonymous. Revealing the name would make that void. Anonymous = SECRET for a reason.  So stop asking for the name of the person whom has the port, and look for the person who ripped the port and claimed it as their own work.

How do you knwo the person with it didnt rip it? >.>

Innocent until proven guilty.
Now drop it.

Offline RandomFurry17

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #11: January 29, 2010, 11:28:46 AM»

ok to many words but who is it? :(

They chose to keep the person anonymous. Revealing the name would make that void. Anonymous = SECRET for a reason.  So stop asking for the name of the person whom has the port, and look for the person who ripped the port and claimed it as their own work.

How do you knwo the person with it didnt rip it? >.>

Innocent until proven guilty.
Now drop it.

normally around here its guilty untill proven innocent >.> *drops it*

Offline Hugo

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #12: January 29, 2010, 01:33:08 PM»
12/12/09 22:48:04 *****: someone made it for me a long time ago
12/12/09 22:48:10 *****: almost four years ago
12/12/09 22:48:15 *****: I don't remember who

It was probably their nonexistent sister. That's believable, right? I would recommend releasing the name of this person in the same sentence that clarifies that they are not proven as a thief. While it's noble of you to try and save this person some harassment, leaving the name out in such a blatant theft case can be damaging toward finding out who ripped what.

For example, say JoeBlow87 is the person who is wearing this portrait. JoeBlow87 may be a notorious thief or, not-so-notorious but well-known to a handful of people who frequent the forums and who can tell you as much. By shielding his/her name, you hamper a source of possible information.

(Disclaimer for all you Vader-haters out there: JoeBlow87 isn't a real person.)

Please consider releasing this information in a tactful manner.

Offline Eddy

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #13: March 10, 2010, 08:49:48 PM»
12/12/09 22:48:04 *****: someone made it for me a long time ago
12/12/09 22:48:10 *****: almost four years ago
12/12/09 22:48:15 *****: I don't remember who

It was probably their nonexistent sister. That's believable, right? I would recommend releasing the name of this person in the same sentence that clarifies that they are not proven as a thief. While it's noble of you to try and save this person some harassment, leaving the name out in such a blatant theft case can be damaging toward finding out who ripped what.

For example, say JoeBlow87 is the person who is wearing this portrait. JoeBlow87 may be a notorious thief or, not-so-notorious but well-known to a handful of people who frequent the forums and who can tell you as much. By shielding his/her name, you hamper a source of possible information.

(Disclaimer for all you Vader-haters out there: JoeBlow87 isn't a real person.)

Please consider releasing this information in a tactful manner.

They said it was made four years ago, right? Did they say the person who made it TOLD them it was made four years ago, or are they saying it was purchased four years ago?

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12/12/09 22:48:04 *****: someone made it for me a long time ago
12/12/09 22:48:10 *****: almost four years ago

They're saying it was made for them four years ago, so obviously, they are the ones who have ripped it. At least that's my first assumption. Everyone here needs a name, whether or not they are guilty. Like someone said previously- what's the point of posting an alert if we don't know who to look out for?
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Offline Glory

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #14: March 10, 2010, 09:23:04 PM»
In the end, telling the public does nothing- you cannot carry out justice with your own two hands, both in real life and on furcadia, so such information would be abused. Killers can get secret identities, new lives, under witness protection programs; I think if they can be allowed to gallant around unbeknowst to us, we can afford to not flip out over a piece of art. Extreme comparison, but one that popped to mind because of a case I was reading about.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but a global moderator already came in here to tell people asking for the name to drop it.

Gin

Re: Port theft -warning-
«Reply #15: March 10, 2010, 11:53:27 PM»
Locked. PM a staff member if you have something relevant to add.