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Author Topic: What's up with this arm? (on the back burner)  (Read 1006 times)

Offline Calib

What's up with this arm? (on the back burner)
«: January 03, 2010, 04:25:25 PM»
The artist working on my port became very very ill and could not finish it, so I am finishing it as best as I can with the artist's permission.

Edit to clarify: I did NOT make this but I am finishing it with permission! this means lines, shading, ect are mostly not mine.

That said, I need help with the arms. I tried to redraw it some, but once shading starts to come in it doesn't look right. Redlines/crits, please?

Old version is on left, version I'm working on is on right.


EDIT: I'm putting this on the back burner for a bit as I have a more pressing piece coming up. Feel free to add more thoughts or redlines, however!
« Last Edit: January 08, 2010, 09:54:28 PM by Calib »

 
        

Offline Rex T-Rex

Re: What's up with this arm?
«Reply #1: January 03, 2010, 05:57:59 PM»
Now, I'm not an expert on rodent biology, rodents aren't in anyway my specialty nor am I the world's best artist and i don't claim to be,  but honestly, I'd redo the entire thing. The muscles in the arms are completely mutated from what they actually should be.
Now this is a model, so she's of course airbrushed an a little more "perfect" than a natural woman. But you can see how her body, skeleton, and muscles are put together.  (if that makes sense) http://media.80stees.com/images/products/Wonder_Woman_Blue_T.jpg
Obviously this is a rodent port, I don't know if you were going for human face, but either way there are things that are off. Here's a lab mouse to better show a rodent body (especially the ears, face, hands, and tail). Not a lot of definition, and I can't see and shadows from the hair on her face (which there should be). I can't really tell your light source either. I assume more on level with her and off to the left, even still you're missing a lot of shadow.
Muscle structure http://static.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/1/1/4/large/411004.jpg
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Offline Calib

Re: What's up with this arm?
«Reply #2: January 04, 2010, 12:32:12 AM»
  but honestly, I'd redo the entire thing. The muscles in the arms are completely mutated from what they actually should be.

I already said I did not do these lines. This is an aborted commission I'm trying to fix up with permission. They really tried very hard and I want to get this workable as a "thank you" for the effort. 

I will not totally redraw this as it's not mine and that would be an insult. I just want to fix the arm.

I havn't done much shading yet, but the light source is from the top right corner downwards at an angle. Her shading was slim to none with no real source and I am intending to redo most of what is there. I'll be sure to darken some of the hair shadow on the face more once I get to there, again. :)

The face being human-ish is not a flaw; it's a character trait. Long story... either way, it's not an error. Not all furries are people with animal heads. ;)

Thanks for trying, but please read closer next time. :)


Anyone else have thoughts or maybe a better reference?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 12:35:21 AM by Calib »

Offline LSD

Re: What's up with this arm?
«Reply #3: January 04, 2010, 07:13:51 PM»
if anything the forearm in the before is in better condition than the one in the after.. the bicep comes out a bit too much as well.

Offline Rex T-Rex

Re: What's up with this arm?
«Reply #4: January 04, 2010, 07:21:24 PM»
I read the post very carefully prior to posting. I gave an honest opinion on it. But Gackt's right, the "before" arm is better than the "after", it's closer to what and actual arm in that position looks like. At the elbow it's a bit too sharp, the arm would be  turned out a bit more and you would see the forearm lead into the upper arm. They wouldn't overlap as much as what is in this image.
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Offline Calib

Re: What's up with this arm? (on the back burner)
«Reply #5: January 08, 2010, 09:55:48 PM»
Thanks on the thoughts! I'll see if I can chase down a mannequin for reference or something.

In the meantime, I'm putting this on the back burner as I have more pressing art to do.  Feel free to add more thoughts or redlines, however!